I have been a programmer for 15 Years now. The languages I use are: C++, C and Java. Out of the scripting languages I have used Perl. I really was not very happy with its mix of grammar, nomenclature and vagueness. Out of curiosity I picked up a book written for TCL/TK. I was amazed how organized TLC's syntax is. I am also taken back on how solid the programming structure is from package to package throughout. And last but not least how easy it is read TCL code. What's even more amazing is that in one week I was able to develop a tool that has upgraded over 2000 devices in about two hours. And what's funny about that is, the enterprise commercial equivalent could not even come close to the features built into the tool I wrote in "TCL/TK". The TCL project started on a Monday morning and was complete in one week. Please understand I am not bashing Perl. Thanks to PERL the competition is stiff. But I have to admit I have been able to turn more people on to TCL and get them up and running in less time than with PERL. Others like me in experience and some with much less programming experience. And as far as the graphics is concerned, no one new it was a TCL script. They thought it was bonafide Windows program. Oh well that's it for me, for now.