I dont necessarily agree
What does this all mean? That OSS databases are really not ready for prime time in the way that
Apache, BSD, PHP, and other OSS tools are, and, to me, that we are way past "well, it'll be kewl in
a few months when we [whatever]". OSS database developers -- and especially users -- have failed
to develop/embrace good DB tools. This is a fatal flaw in OSS; it leaves the door open to
commercial, very non-OSS products.
Says who? YOU? Your real complaint is the
lack of graphical tools isn't it? To which any decent
DB programmer/admin doesnt need such tools. You can
get your graphical tool using Tora which will talk with Oracle,
Mysql and Postgres. but even without Tora theres more
than adaquate tools available. Sorry if they are not point and click.
Thats _YOUR_ problem.
Mysql and Postgresql are more than capable databases.
Would I use them to store say 500 million records? I'd be more
inclined to choose Oracle instead. See the issue isnt one of
_maturity_ of the OSS tools, it's one of _support_. The oss databases
are _more_ than capable of doing the job. The issue is
one of_exposure_, _training_ and _support_. Period. For many who
have talented staff, this is already taken care of, for others,
they need to rely upon support services offered by others.
To Imply that OSS DB's are inadquate is just wrong.
I think as systems like Linux make more inroads
into the marketplace, Developers will get more exposure
and experience with these tools. The tools themselves
right now, today are more than adaquate for most
While most companies/individuals are too narrow-minded to mix OSS with MS products, this is
often a good solution, especially for middle-range companies (that cannot afford Oracle).
First. its not a matter of narrow-mindedness, many simply
do not have the staff that can handle non-out-of-the-box solutions.
Thus the real issue is a lack of exposure to these tools. Again,
at lest in terms of Linux, most modern distros are bundling
Mysql and Postgresql together. So I think over time these
tools will gain more exposure, and thus more use in
different commercial projects.
Second, Oracle license is not all that expensive. It _DOES_
require someone with knowledge and experience. I can't imagine
_any_ company entrusting their valuable data to someone who was
_not_ knowledgable and who had _little_ exerience in DataBases.
Clearly you may have a valid complaint due to the fact not
a lot of companies are deploying their software to use OSS
databases. For example Oracle deploys Apache in its
IAS9i portal product. So point well made, but I think
Databases are of a different nature than Apache or Samba.
Perhaps over time we will see more vendor support of these free
databases, after all Postgres is not all that radically different from say
Oracle in many ways. But still, I firmly believe the main problem with
OSS Databases remains one of support.
open sourced windows software?
My personal feeling is that Windows is already well established so with that said why does Freshmeat even need to consider promoting opensourced windows software? Freshmeat has always been an exellent source of software for Linux and BSD (free,commercial, opensourced, closed etc) so why on earth should that change now? It's the Linux and BSD's of the world that need the most help and exposure. Windows is already well known, Windows already has sites for free windows software, so why should Freshmeat even consider this as a option at all?
Promoting open sourced Windows software never put Freshmeat on the map to begin with. Why not expand services for the Linux and BSD communities and leave the Windows people to tend to their own affairs? This is where you can do the most good. I am certain that gnu.org doesnt have opensourced win32 software, or none that I've seen. Why does Freshmeat need to do this? I find this whole thing completely and utterly annoying to begin with. Linux and BSD needs all the help they can get. Why promote something that doesnt need promoting? Cant we have a few web sites that doesnt have any Windows related material on it? Why is this too much to ask?