Re: Pre-server spam filtering to be reviewed in Network World
> enterprise mail server. Because Network
> World is aimed at a corporate networks
> managers, I didn't directly review any
> open source products, but several of the
> commercial products, of course, have
> open source cores...
Hmm... I'm a corporate "network" manager, if one
considers system management to be network
management. Anyway, I just wanted to point out that
you aren't doing the readership of a supposedly
technical magazine any favors when leaving out open-
source in comparison. You might be doing the
advertisers a favor but the fact is that most managers
are going to be familiar with open-source
implementations before commercial ones in nearly all
Including SpamAssassin directly is the obvious
benchmark in my book but probably not a favorable
comparison to knockoffs when price is factored in.
Re: Articles please, not shameful advertising for Alpha Quadrant Vapor
> Then I don't know why this article in
> particular churns your stomach.
> It's a much simpler one. It just says
> "There's a new Web programming
> language. If you're interested in it,
> there's a book about it.
> Here's what I think about the book."
> This is a news site about things
> that are interesting to Unix
> programmers. Said programmers may need
> to write in or support Curl some day, or
> discourage their bosses from
> adopting it, or at least know what it
> is. There's no harm in this.
I have decided to not respond to the character assasination other than to say that based on all the public information I can see about you that I do indeed know alot more about programming than you do. Obviously less than you do about OSDN and its relationship with FM.
What is quoted above is the only part of your replies that addresses the real issue. What churns my stomach is the impression I had of FM as a more impartial and Unix community site. This is supported by the general behavior over the years I've been coming here and documents like this:
- FAQ: Why Doesn't FM List Windows Software
Allow me to quote a relevant bit:
"Part of the reason why freshmeat has reached its current level of success is because we have remained conscious of our target audience. freshmeat has always aimed itself at the Unix crowd, and if we were to try to shift our focus and be "all things to all people", then we would end up spreading ourselves too thinly. "
When I saw a book review for Windows only software of a book that doesn't even ship with an index, is "playing" with their license model, etc. etc it seemed to me someone at FM had lost consciousness of its target audience. Most of all because there already IS a great piece of Unix software named after the same thing, it isn't vapor, and the only apparent reason for this breach of trust with FM's seemed to be commercial. Most of us are not expecting an advertisement to be put forth as a (bogus) book review. That is what churned my stomach.
So let me ask you what I'd like to know right from a source whose word we can take as the official FM position:
- will FM accept book reviews (from OSDN or whomever) as a promotional item and submit them to their audience? Without regard to the "rules" that the rest of us think we are playing with here when we contribute (for free)?
- did OSDN pay webplan to conduct a ranking? where is the data?
- as a technical publishing professional do you really believe that OSDN is the #1 site people go to for technological news on the Internet?
- what do you think of curl and the fact that outside of their own site's and Howard's that it practically doesn't exist and only right now for Windows?
- do you think Curl warrants mention and the company of mature projects like Zope and haxx's curl?
- do you really think that people here are as aware of webplan as K5?
Let's hear your answers to those questions. No one wants to hear about me. This is about Curl and whether or not FM/OpenSourceDN will be selling promotions to commercial Windows interests and then passing them off as legitimate community contributions here on FM.