Re: Where can I get MS-Linux? (kidding!)
> I have to say, I agree with Jeff Covey's
> (non-technical) points. Linux still
> demands that it's users be willing to do
> plenty of homework to get their system
> running. I am not a hacker. I'm not
> even approaching that status. I know a
> little HTML and just enough Unix to do a
> little web stuff. I installed Linux
> (RH7) on my new home computer because I
> was curious about the system, and had
> nothing on my new system to risk.
> Everything went swell until I tried to
> use my modem. Yes, it was a Winmodem, a
> term I'd never heard of until it was
> much too late. If my experience is at
> all typical (and USNET posts I've read
> on newbies attests that it is) then Jeff
> and Linus are right. It's the desktop,
> stupid. Linux won't be on desktops
> until it either provides the drivers or
> becomes so popular that hardware isn't
> sold without Linux drivers. It's a
> chicken/egg problem.
> I am now on my third modem, after
> installing an external that worked but
> stalled every 25 or 30 seconds and then
> replacing the Winmodem with a modem that
> 'works with Linux' according to it's
> box. But RHL 7 came with kernel
> 2.2.16-22 and the fine print on my modem
> claims it's for kernels 2.3 and higher.
> I read about tarballs and got the
> files and read the HOWTOs and READMEs
> and looked at the Red Hat site's
> information and decided I was ready to
> compile 2.4.1. Except 'make' isn't on
> my system. When I installed RH I
> declined the 'developer's tools.' I'm
> not a developer, I just want to be a
> user. [Long story about USENET groups
> and the kindness of strangers deleted.]
> Now I know I should have installed the
> developer's tools. At this point, I've
> decided to wait for a new release with a
> stable kernel that has a driver for the
> modem. It's not fair that hardware
> manufacturers feel compelled to write
> drivers for Windows but not for Linux,
> but that's the way it is.
> If Linux get's popular, manufacturers
> will provide drivers. Linux won't be
> popular without drivers. Hackers (and
> you know who you are) need to donate
> drivers whenever they can, and guys like
> me can write letters to Dell and US
I've been trying to get a distribution (anyone) installed on a Pent.II. CorelLinux (2nd) showed the most promise (if I purchased a compatible printer). The new external modem I purchased for the box works, when the OS feels like it. SuSe 7.1 is very impressive but has no support for video card and a VESA mode command must fool the video into appearing. However, after I got the X started, then tried to configure the mouse, sax2 locked it up and had to pull the plug. All that talk about blue screens is nonsense cause with SuSe, you have to reinstall the whole non-working thing. Actually, with Linux, pulling the plug is death. At least windows comes back. The Caldera distribution has similar failures on configuration, as does Mandrake. Now, all the distributions are quick to point out that you should "replace" unsupported components and then we'll all "have lots of fun."
Command line and a keyboard are great but the retailers are selling windows Linux in attempt to get into the home/soho market. After many wasted hours, I say they are hucksters. Windows Linux will be safe only when the larger PC manufacturers ship boxes with Linux installed.
Until then, it's command line or nothing. Perhaps someone out there has had a good experience with a distribution? If I could put the working features of the four distributions into one package, I might actually have something.
I personally do not have time for command line.