Re: is ther still life in Arachne ??
> % Yes, there is !!!
> % http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/
> Ok, I know a few years have passed since
> your post, but... well ;)
> So here's arachne, finally a GPL version
> so I could try it out again.
> Origianlly, before I migrated to free
> software, I used arachne for a
> while (in the good old modem-times).
> After trying different
> systems, i've finally choosen Debian
> GNU/Linux where I use w3m (80%),
> dillo (15%) and mozilla (5%) for
> browsing. When I've found your post
> and downloaded the code, I was thinking
> I could replace dillo with
> arachne. However, this turned out not to
> be the case.
> In this mail I will criticize the
> software, but not to offend the authors
> but to give (I hope) valuable freedback.
> If the project is not totally dead
> already, I hope these comments would
> help getting developers.
> 1. It doesn't compile. I had to spend
> more than a hour to get it to compile.
> Most of the problems are easy to fix and
> obviously caused by the fact
> the packager doesn't really use *NIX. I
> think if a software supports both
> DOS and POSIX (or rather some POSIX
> systems with svgalib installed), it
> should be tested on both. Some of the
> easy problems: Makefile needs to be
> copied (I haven't found a Readme telling
> this), all filenames are
> uppercase in the .zip (which should be
> tar.gz by the way) while all
> references are lowercase, one file even
> lost a character due to file name
> length limit of the packager's system. A
> few not-so-easy problems are
> lack of #ifdefs. It seems the code once
> worked with POSIX systems
> but later features/bugfixes were added
> and noone tried it again on POSIX
> so some of the later changes simply
> don't work.
> 2. The source zip lacks config files. I
> had to download a binary version
> just to get some files stored in share/.
> I think it would be nice if
> one could compile and immediatly run the
> 3. Lack of license. The only 2
> references that tells this software is
> was your post and your homepage. You
> should at least copy the GPL text
> in the root of the zip.
> 4. Lack of Readme/installation files.
> One downloads the zip and he/she
> doesn't know what to do.
> 5. Lack of info about version control.
> Is/was there a CVS or SVN or
> repository? Michael mentioned
> in his earlier posts that he doesn't see
> open source community would invest
> time in improving the software - which
> is sure a point if you don't
> have version control. Who would spend
> time on creating a patch if
> the above problems (from 2. to 5.)
> 6. It's _not_ faster than dillo while
> dillo also renders better. I've checked
> only a few pages, and I am sure there
> are cases where dillo is worse
> (probably with frames for example). Ok,
> it's not really something
> you could easily fix, but I had to tell
> about it so the next paragraph
> will be more meaningful.
> However, and this why I am actually
> spending my time on writing this mail,
> arachne supports svgalib (and the binary
> version also supports ggi?). Dillo
> doesn't. Actaully I do not know about
> any non-X, graphical, still maintaned
> web browser for *NIX. I think this is a
> gap in the free software market.
> Arachne could fill this gap if the ggi
> version was GPL, the released
> source would really compile and there
> was at least a version controlled
> This post was not meant to be
Wow!!! For some years we have heard complaints about lack of Linux support, yet nobody ever wanted to assist with this. You at least have tried, so I commend you for that. We have no current Linux developer, but if you'd like to restart the Linux branch, please join the existing developers at groups.yahoo.com/group/ArachneDevelopment.