Re: Yoper is apparently gonna cause World War III
> I came here to have a look at Yoper,
> after reading about it in Linux Magazine
> (which included 2.1 for free, and thanks
> for that).
> I was hoping to find out a little more
> about the distro before I installed it,
> and I came accross the most heated
> debate (or flame fest) that i have seen
> in months. After reading several back
> and forth posts, I thought I would weigh
> in with some common sense.
> If someone goes to the trouble of
> creating a customized linux distro, and
> spends a great deal of time and effort
> in doing this, then why is it so
> inconceivable to think they might be
> paid for it?
> I have not yet installed Yoper, so I
> cannot comment on it's performance or
> usability, but it seems to me that this
> argument has nothing to do with that. It
> seems like an attack on the author
> because he has the audacity to charge a
> fee for it. That seems pretty stupid to
> If you dont want to pay for the distro,
> then dont. There are plenty of other
> distro's out there which are sold at a
> much higher cost, as well as hundreds
> which are free of charge. Why not just
> slam them all? Everyone who expects some
> compensation for their effort is a
> bloody capitalist pig, and anyone who
> gives their distro away for free is an
> anti-capitalist moron.
> Come on guys.. if you want to try it,
> then try it.. If you like it enough to
> pay for it, then send the guys who spent
> countless hours packaging it a few
> bucks.. I am quite sure they earned it,
> and if you dont like it.. or dont want
> to pay for it, then go download gentoo
> or fedora instead.
> This idea that everyone should do
> everything for free is novel in concept,
> but it takes money to live in modern
> society. I would love nothing more than
> to give 100% of myself to helping those
> less fortunate, but if I dont make some
> money along the way, I will quickly
> become one of those less fortunate
> people I am trying to help.
> In closing, can't we all just get along?
> I know we all hate Microsoft, but is it
> because they flood the market with
> garbage and wont release the code so we
> can fix all of their mistakes? Or is it
> because they are a business which
> charges a fee for their operating
> system? I wager if we think about this,
> the latter is not the root of the
> Now I am going to install Yoper myself
> and give it a spin.. and if I like it,
> and decide to use it, then I will gladly
> pay the author for his work. If I dont
> decide to use it myself, I wont presume
> that everyone else shares my opinion,
> and I will suggest that everyone else
> try it as well.
> To the author - Thanks for working to
> build a better linux, rather than using
> your skills to build more worthless (and
> overpriced) crap for Windows.
> We may not all choose the same distro,
> but we should all stand together as
> members of the linux community. If you
> really have to bash someone every day,
> then point your anger at Microsoft, and
> stop attacking your own family.
> Thats just the way I see it anyway..
Just installed yoper and am really impressed. 15 minutes
total install time, and it runs really fast. I have to say I
like it better than gentoo, suse, and debian - great
autodetection and very little configuration/maintenance. I
just hope that the distro is still active (and there's still a
free version available) over the next couple of years.