Re: stupid registration
> % I agree with this user. Despite what
> % developer states as a reason, users
> % should not have to register to
> % this software. If this is GNU GPL
> % software then people should be able
> % download it without a registration. I
> % disgusted by an open-source package
> % forcing user registration,
> % phpclasses.org website is the
> % website. I am not trying to make this
> % personal attack or start a flame war,
> % but the developer of this package
> % to realize that this is an
> % practice. Does Apache.org require
> % registration? Does a download of the
> % language distribution require
> % registration? No. No. Also, I don't
> % ADODB trying to force registration.
> % Anyways, I would like to try this
> % software but I have never registered
> % use OSS, and won't start now. I can
> % program my own solution for row-limit
> % functionality in MS SQL Server and
> % keep using ADODB for PHP.
> Regardless of the license of the
> software, it is always upto the author
> to decide how he wants to make his
> software available to others.
> The way I see it you have no legal nor
> moral right to demand anything from the
> authors. They are already making their
> software available for free and you
> think you should impose further
> conditions on the way software is served
> to you, as if the authors owe you
> anything. What else do you want? The
> authors blood? Shall the authors still
> have to pay you to use their free
> I regret that you felt it was a good
> idea to threat to use a similar package
> made available in another site. I have
> to inform you that ridiculous threat
> does not work because I am not
> interested in having users with hostile
> intentions to use my free software. I do
> no care if you use another package from
> somebody else. If it is your will, I
> respect that.
> OTOH, you are just being desrespectful
> to the authors because you do not want
> to understand and accept the reasons for
> the authors to make their software
> available this way.
> On the PHP Classes site, making software
> available without requiring registration
> is an option that each author can
> exercise even in a file by file basis.
> The reason why most authors do not
> remove the registration requirement is
> because the site will not account
> downloads of files made available about
> Packages that do not have their
> downloads accounted, are not considered
> for the download rankings nor can be
> rated by the users. This is this way to
> prevent frauds that could be committed
> by authors with intention to gain ilicit
> visibility by using robots to make false
> user downloads.
> For many authors, the chance of being
> ranked and rated is a small but an
> important compensation for making their
> software available for free.
> This may not be important for you as an
> user, but you have to understand and
> respect the authors wishes and hopes.
> If after this explanation you still
> disagree and do not respect the with the
> authors will, there is not much more
> that can be done for you. Opening the
> source of my software will not make a
> slave of the users of that software. I
> am sorry you felt otherwise.
I respect developers, and I respect your right to distribute your software however you wish. It would be better for me to say that I disagree with this particular model of distribution. I also am wary of fraud, spam, and popups which is why I do not want to register to obtain this software. Also, if this is GPL software there is nothing to prevent others from distributing it on their own web site. The GPL states:
1. You may copy and distribute verbatim copies of the Program's source code as you receive it, in any medium, provided that you conspicuously and appropriately publish on each copy an appropriate copyright notice and disclaimer of warranty; keep intact all the notices that refer to this License and to the absence of any warranty; and give any other recipients of the Program a copy of this License along with the Program.
Also, once the software is GPL it is not "his" or "hers", it is public domain. I do not have hostile intentions and your tone is highly unwarranted, I never demanded anything. Your elaborate response as to why it is critical to have this software ranked by the number of times it was downloaded is also moot. The statement, "This may not be important for you as an user, but you have to understand and respect the authors wishes and hopes", does not make any sense whatsoever. The point about "there is not much more that can be done for you" was also a blantant insult. One other thing, I was not "threatening" anything or anyone.
I thought the idea of writing open-source software was to share it. I thought you might come back and say, "Hey I can get you a copy without registering if you have a problem". I would think that adding to a user base is as important as download rankings, if not more. Your response to this message was more about legitimizing the delivery system by which phpclasses.org and its authors offer software than is was about anything else.
Re: stupid registration
> % I don't want to register for every
> % little package I download from the
> % What are you, a spammer?
> Here is why you need to be subscribed to
> download any packages from the PHP
> Classes Repository and here is the site
> reason for you not to subscribe to the
> site if you really want to download any
> of the packages made available there.
I agree with this user. Despite what the developer states as a reason, users should not have to register to download this software. If this is GNU GPL software then people should be able to download it without a registration. I am disgusted by an open-source package forcing user registration, phpclasses.org website is the developers website. I am not trying to make this a personal attack or start a flame war, but the developer of this package needs to realize that this is an unacceptable practice. Does Apache.org require registration? Does a download of the PHP language distribution require registration? No. No. Also, I don't see ADODB trying to force registration. Anyways, I would like to try this software but I have never registered to use OSS, and won't start now. I can program my own solution for row-limit functionality in MS SQL Server and just keep using ADODB for PHP.