Re: One note, that I think should be cleared up..
> In regards to..
> Since when does any of that make a
> Unix Unix? Last I checked SunOS/Solaris
> (and I personally own three different
> versions) DEFINATELY does not come with
> gcc or gdb and doesn't
> "really" come with cc.. there
> is a cc command, but it'll basically
> tell you it hasn't been installed (a
> c/c++ compiler does not come with the
> OS). Most Unixes do not come with a
> compiler! Most Unixes either do not come
> with X or it is an optional and seperate
> install (once again, SunOS would be a
> good example). To say that a REAL unix
> would ship with GNU's programs is even
> more wrong.
Erm... exactly which versions of Solaris do you have? Certainly I've found 7,8 and therefore presumably 9 to install X as part of a default install - perhaps it's possible to do a minimal install, but that's not default IIRC...
As to GCC and the rest of the GNU tools (shutils, etc), Sun DO supply these as an extra CD download (certainly for Solaris 8), as life with their provided utilities is painful, and they know it - otherwise, they wouldn't go to the trouble of packaging up the GNU tools!