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11 Sep 2003 09:54 davebecks143

Re: Very disappointed over the commercialisation of mindterm
Don't be disappointed, just use a free client! This thing is dated and archaic anyway. Try SSHTerm, it's free (GPL), supports SSH2 and has a funky interface, unlike the sloppy, amateur effort published here. Check it out:

http://freshmeat.net/projects/sshtools-sshterm/?topic_id=156%2C44%2C43


> We're all *very disappointed* this has
> become
> commercial.
>
> This is a modified version of MindTerm
> 1.2.1 which is GPL'ed.
>
> http://www.isnetworks.com/ssh/
>


01 Jul 2002 11:33 dazdaz

Very disappointed over the commercialisation of mindterm
We're all *very disappointed* this has become
commercial.

This is a modified version of MindTerm 1.2.1 which is GPL'ed.

http://www.isnetworks.com/ssh/

12 Mar 2002 16:32 dbm1175

MindTerm for Private Use?
I can't seem to find MindTerm (for personal use) on the website anymore? Has something happened? Is it no longer available?

03 Feb 2001 01:03 pldaniels

Re: The license of MindTerm v1.99

> unlikely to sue themselves, it's a
> defacto acceptable violation.
>


Glad to hear this, now I can put my lawers away,
as I am selling as a commercial package code which
I wrote (released under GPL originally, but now BSD).

What however, about the code that was contributed
by others into your own project? ie, such as
patches, fixes, features?


02 Feb 2001 21:34 aldem

Re: The license of MindTerm v1.99

> Since these guys are the original creators, (i assume) Can't they change the license as they see fit


True. They can change license as they want and when they want, regardless of original license or changes in code.

BTW, concerning GPL, if you read it carefully:
---snip---
Activities other than copying, distribution and modification are not
covered by this License; they are outside its scope.
---snip---

(Terms and conditions, Article 0, paragraph 2).

So, even GPL may not restrict _use_ of some product (so I still may sell it without any distribution, for instance :).

02 Feb 2001 20:04 jasonjayr

Re: The license of MindTerm v1.99
Since these guys are the original creators, (i assume) Can't they change the license as they see fit? After all, they are the owners of the original source code. Anyone else after them would be prohibited from distributing it.

02 Feb 2001 13:33 mitchwyle

Does it tunnel back through 443?

What I want is to get a vt102 ssh shell open back to my server via SSL (443). mindterm appears to launch a java applet terminal emulator that tries to open port 22 (ssh) back. 22 is blocked from the public places where I would normally need mindterm.

Does this release let you tunnel back via 443 to the web server whence the ssh port (22) can be opened to whichever machine you want the shell?

Thanks.

02 Feb 2001 12:54 modus

Re: The license of MindTerm v1.99
This raises an interesting issue. I assume v1.99 is not a complete rewrite. So, if any GPL code from v1.2.1 was contained in it, it would be in violation of the GPL. But, since Mindterm is the company that has the rights to enforce the license and is unlikely to sue themselves, it's a defacto acceptable violation.


Interesting situation to think about for other commercial, GPL projects.

08 Dec 2000 11:07 kaspel

The license of MindTerm v1.99
Since many have asked (and with right) about the license of this software I wanted to clarify this (the confusion comes in part from the fact that the website has not been updated, we're working on that). MindTerm has been around for over 2 years it has been GPL almost from the beginning. However the license of the SSH2 package has not been decided and hence the license of MindTerm v1.99 can't be GPL (or anything else for that matter) until this is decided. The license will be decided before the end of this year, until then the v1.99 will be a demo with a restricted license and no source code will be made available. All code up to and including v1.2.1 is and will of course be GPL.

30 Nov 2000 14:33 residentgeek

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